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Marques Brownlee

Marques Brownlee

2 أشهر قبل

My thoughts on getting rid of dislike counts.
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Linus Tech Tips
Linus Tech Tips 2 أشهر قبل
Thanks, ARface. I hate it. If only there was some way to express my displeasure. A button, perhaps? -LS
Clakas
Clakas 6 أيام قبل
linux sechs tips
Finndu
Finndu 10 أيام قبل
How bad is it now?
Nefa
Nefa 13 أيام قبل
I guess one creative way of protesting this change could be if creators started publishing a google doc in the description of their video displaying a feedback that automatically updates from the creator's space (sense the irony ?). You'd effectively outsource the ratio, inside another part of google's server ! All you'd need for this protest to work would be enough creators doing it at the same time, and I'm sure this would instantly make headlines.
Monkey Robots Inc.
Monkey Robots Inc. 25 أيام قبل
Brains at ARface? Lol wut?
Cacts5918
Cacts5918 أشهر قبل
Hey you here. (taking top 500 ticket)
SAPHIRAPPS
SAPHIRAPPS أشهر قبل
Imagine if Amazon only published the 5 star reviews to protect the seller’s wellbeing.
Brian Andrews
Brian Andrews 5 أيام قبل
@Fof 135 It has already happened, they did it for Xi Jinping’s book
Fof 135
Fof 135 5 أيام قبل
Don't give them any ideas
Kiddsoul82
Kiddsoul82 7 أيام قبل
Your comment is a guiding light of common sense.
Brian Andrews
Brian Andrews 7 أيام قبل
Fun fact: that actually happened. Amazon cooperated with the communist party of China to remove any customer reviews that were not a five star rating on Xi Jinping‘s book. That is a fact, look it up if you don’t believe me
J M
J M 8 أيام قبل
yea, you know some platform dont show whole ratio cuz they are SHADYY!!!! ohh well you will get use to it as youtube say, get use it
René Casaña
René Casaña أشهر قبل
Removing dislikes is just a way ARface protects corporations from failure.
Chance
Chance 15 أيام قبل
Like Ea for example when they give us shit sims 4 packs
Ars Libri
Ars Libri 16 أيام قبل
Exactly! Particularly stations like CNN and the current resident of the White House and his dropping rating.
🇬🇧 LightenStar #She-Ra
🇬🇧 LightenStar #She-Ra 17 أيام قبل
@Vince McMahon I never knew that
Nicolo' Bartolomei
Nicolo' Bartolomei 18 أيام قبل
Theytube removed the dislike counter one month after that Fauci documentary was released and get TONSSS of dislike
MediumSur Moon
MediumSur Moon 27 أيام قبل
Just get the chrome extension "Return youtube dislike" and you're good to go . It's actually good too
StudRock
StudRock أشهر قبل
Honestly, its poor decisions like this (by ARface), that make me wish there was a competitor. I would be more than happy to move to another platform that would allow users the option to freedom of Speech, and allow your VOTE to be counted regardless if it a like or dislike.
StudRock
StudRock 19 أيام قبل
@Danny Ong I agree... I'm going to get to the point that... I'm going to give everyone a "Dislike" with the comment of... due to the You Tube algorithm not showing the Dislike number... and maybe, just maybe, the Channel owners will start to complain to You Tube management to bring back the number system. After all... if they show the Like number, its useless unless you have something to compare it to like the "Dislike"... the sad thing is... its NOT the Channel owners fault, but they are going to get the brunt of it... its a shame.. and you're right, it is a monopoly
Danny Ong
Danny Ong 20 أيام قبل
The only problem is that youtube and google are the two largest monoplies in america. It appears that these governments love monopolies and pretend like they're against it. SMH
Cecil Arthur
Cecil Arthur 20 أيام قبل
Yes
XoCaliburn
XoCaliburn 28 أيام قبل
I wish a competitor for youtube did exist but it will never happen, youtube is just too big
Jose R
Jose R أشهر قبل
And yet you're still here, so they don't really care. People will stick with the platform regardless. :P
Wizardz Alt
Wizardz Alt 28 أيام قبل
“ARface is trying to give creators a voice by actively taking away their voice” -Bosh
Lala Jallaludin
Lala Jallaludin 24 أيام قبل
That's just like santa loving you by giving you a charcoal
SmarterEveryDay
SmarterEveryDay 2 أشهر قبل
Removing negative feedback from any control system causes the system to go chaotic. That’s not an opinion…that’s how math works.
ullcringe
ullcringe 27 أيام قبل
It’s almost like they are saying your opinion must be positive or it doesn’t matter.
Willook
Willook أشهر قبل
Exactly.
Skinnie
Skinnie أشهر قبل
0:31 LOL @ this youtube shill. ARface is notorious for not listening to their creators. Unsubbed to this garbage.
Eddie Blair: Documenting the Dark Side of Reality
Eddie Blair: Documenting the Dark Side of Reality أشهر قبل
@Woody He's from the USA so no, math is correct.
melodramatic7904
melodramatic7904 أشهر قبل
I would just say that youtube is not removing negative feedback. It's just hiding the number from the general public. The content creator would still be able to see the dislike count for themselves.
TheASTrader
TheASTrader أشهر قبل
From an education-seeking standpoint, removing dislike counts has made it near impossible to discern what tutorials are credible and worth watching and what tutorials aren't.
Scott Wheeler
Scott Wheeler أشهر قبل
Its not that ARface dont know, they dont care. They only need you to click a video, not watch it! They can claim to their advertisers that you are a viewer even if autoplay has selected a video that you definitely wont watch
Lilynzst
Lilynzst أشهر قبل
In every review form youtube has ever sent me over the past 5-6 years ive always said that dislikes should be more useful. being able to see at what point in the video the button gets hit would be a gamechanger and make it much more constructive! seeing if it's something you said/did, if people are immediately disliking etc. Not only does this change take away that valueable info from viewers, it doesnt do anything to help creators. we can still see it
appa L
appa L 26 أيام قبل
exactly. information allows you more control. youtube wants to keep that power away from you and make a profit
JenniferBenniferASMR
JenniferBenniferASMR 18 أيام قبل
What an outstanding presentation! This was like a well prepared book report! And articulated fantastically without bias or excessive emotion. 👏🏻 You provided the facts of the situation, expressed the problem it creates and even suggested a compromised solution. Bravo!!! 👏🏻 For the record: I do not like ARface’s decision to hide the dislikes.
Tj Kennedy
Tj Kennedy أشهر قبل
You said everything I was thinking! Great commentary! ARface needs to listen! I think your ideas would do a much better job mitigating the "review bombers" especially if you're required to actually watch a video before being able to rate it. That's such a good idea.
JerryRigEverything
JerryRigEverything 2 أشهر قبل
As an avid consumer of How-To and tutorial videos - I am sad about the disappearance of the dislike counter.
RabuHina
RabuHina 2 أيام قبل
I agree. I began to use the How-To videos an such to help me re-learn playing the piano (albeit on a keyboard). The fact the dislike button is no longer there per say, it won't give me an idea of the video is worth my time or the teaching methods used in the video won't be useful
Shrkkng55
Shrkkng55 5 أيام قبل
@GOVTISTHEPROBLEM Neither do capitalists.
GOVTISTHEPROBLEM
GOVTISTHEPROBLEM 5 أيام قبل
Study authoritarianism, you'll see throughout history dictators don't like criticism.
J M
J M 8 أيام قبل
@frederickfarrell I have, one some but most i do like
ALONE WOLF GAMING
ALONE WOLF GAMING أشهر قبل
Yeah
Kabel93
Kabel93 أشهر قبل
Quite a smart move on ARface actually. This would lead to more people watching more unecessary videos. Because now we'll watch all the unnecessary how-to (for example) videos until we reach the one that's useful - trial and error on our part, which the ratio actually helped us before. This would increase ARface's ad revenue. Clever.
Jay Beatz
Jay Beatz 9 أيام قبل
That is true but I think it may be a bit more sinister than just the ratios.. big cooperations and government flaws is what they are covering up for.
☆゚.*・。゚- N1ghty_Shxdows - *・。゚☆゚
☆゚.*・。゚- N1ghty_Shxdows - *・。゚☆゚ أشهر قبل
Ugh you’re right Anyone knows if there’s any platform I could move to? ARface ain’t shitty but damn I have a feeling it’s bout to go down-
Nebroski Theraut
Nebroski Theraut أشهر قبل
Corporation Greed. Susan needs not be overthrown
The Insanity is Palpable
The Insanity is Palpable أشهر قبل
Totally agree and incredibly well spoken - hopefully ARface listens to this near universal backlash and changes course.
Kyle Potter
Kyle Potter أيام قبل
You, sir, have been my favorite individual on ARface since first discovering you in early 2015, maybe 2014... And this is yet another reason why. Thank you for speaking up!
maaax
maaax أشهر قبل
8:11 Finally someone that shares my thoughts. I don't get how so many people think the dislike button should be used to express their feelings towards a neutral fact stated in the video rather than to rate the quality of the video and the opinions given by the creator
brusspup
brusspup 2 أشهر قبل
Ironically, i dislike this change more than any that ARface has ever made
J M
J M 8 أيام قبل
dear youtube your days are counted!
Run
Run أشهر قبل
Nazitube
angelo caga
angelo caga أشهر قبل
yup, social media is such a very unsafe place. Having no datas to rely on can be dangerous.
Ariel Hernandez
Ariel Hernandez أشهر قبل
love your videos.
ryanhardin
ryanhardin أشهر قبل
Collective knowledge and contributions by any user community is extremely important. Every time I would play a ARface video, I would glance at the Like vs Dislike ratio to make a quick informed decision as to the quality of the video. That has all changed now. Rather than immediately know if the user community finds a "how to" or product review video helpful, I now waste minutes watching the entire video. Marques is right. ARface is a search engine, and the ability to see the Dislike count is extremely helpful in the search for signal vs noise. With this change, ARface just dramatically damaged the user experience. ARface should roll this back and poll their creators and users. I'm certain that most will say that ARface should only hide the dislike count if the creator opts in to hiding dislikes. Make that an opt-in setting for creators to apply to their videos, and we're good.
XVMincraft7582 GD
XVMincraft7582 GD أشهر قبل
I really don’t understand why ARface could’ve just gave us the option to turn off just dislikes instead of just forcing this down all our throats
aj
aj 11 أيام قبل
THANK YOU i'm so glad this seems to be a majority opinion, the thing i use youtube for the most is tutorials and when they are on lesser known topics you can easily filter out which one will actually help you/helped others by the like to dislike ratio. today i found out theres a chrome extension in their store that restores the dislikes thank god.
Γιάννης Σίγμα
Γιάννης Σίγμα أشهر قبل
Having an extension that returns dislikes is a blessing, big thanks to whoever made it.
Southern Yak Fishing
Southern Yak Fishing أشهر قبل
I agree 100% I’ve actually found myself now using ARface about 50% less (I used to spend hrs on it). I mostly learn how to do various things and now I don’t know if the information I’m watching is accurate or helpful. This was such a stupid move on their part.
Andy Sterkowitz
Andy Sterkowitz أشهر قبل
All great points. I think the dislike button serves an important role in using ARface effectively. I don’t mind the dislikes as a creator one bit.
* BornADreamer *
* BornADreamer * 7 أيام قبل
@S I disagree, there are some gems here in there but not often in the algorithm.
RANDOMNESS OF LIFE
RANDOMNESS OF LIFE 29 أيام قبل
Me too
Ahmad Mohamad
Ahmad Mohamad أشهر قبل
@Voidroamer I really hope it is Vimeo could make a massive comeback in the next 2 years (it would need huge improvement)
Lion of Truth
Lion of Truth أشهر قبل
Then make a video about it, bro. Use your platform to get the Truth out there. 🦁
Michael Cheshire
Michael Cheshire أشهر قبل
Video is one one the HIGHEST DISLIKE TO VIEWS RATIO IS ABOUT: Susan Wojcicki (CEO of ARface) ---Highest disliked video is ARfaceS own RECAP vids lol - SAY LESS RIGHT??
Mallchad
Mallchad أشهر قبل
So strange to see everybody come together in such a dark time, and all the will known voices sharing their thoughts... I'm starting to believe the West and people who engage with technology have reached a critical point where they are willing to burn bridges and make bold statements on spite alone. I look forward to seeing how far everybody is willing to go.
xGudNitex GudNite
xGudNitex GudNite 26 أيام قبل
Thank you so much for this video! I really hope they listen. This change dramatically impacts the effectiveness of this platform as a resource. As a premium member, I highly value the ratings/ratio component. I use likes and dislikes to help other viewers find the best content. ARface really needs some form of content rating.
Abilucksan Vijeyakumaran
Abilucksan Vijeyakumaran أشهر قبل
As a software intern who searches for tutorials, I always use the ratio to determine about the video quality. Because tutorials are 10 min - 3 Hr commitment. I need to know wether it's worth 😅
Saul Landiof
Saul Landiof أشهر قبل
that's a great point about ARface being a search engine, it seems like they're trying to phase that aspect out already, giving only a few search results and then straight to recommended
Veritasium
Veritasium 2 أشهر قبل
I agree with Marques - long live the dislike button!
Vostok568
Vostok568 أشهر قبل
longlive!
Skinnie
Skinnie أشهر قبل
0:31 LOL @ this youtube shill. ARface is notorious for not listening to their creators. Unsubbed to this garbage.
Lion of Truth
Lion of Truth أشهر قبل
Make a video about it then, man. Back up your opinion and use your platform for Truth. Send a message. Dislikes must return. 🦁
JmKrokY
JmKrokY أشهر قبل
😔
channing bloom
channing bloom أشهر قبل
Hey
Romain Vincent
Romain Vincent أشهر قبل
Your review is spot on. Except I don't even think this is going to prevent "bombing". It's still possible to dislike, so people will keep doing it. **Disliking should require a minimum watch time and/or to input a short explanation.** That would not only reduce useless dislikes, but also help content creators get more helpful feedback.
Aditya Sharma
Aditya Sharma أشهر قبل
You talk straight to the point. That's why I love to watch your videos. 👍🏻
Siturba
Siturba 29 أيام قبل
"ARface actually listen to their creators" Well, they do... When they has 15M subs :)
Slozzzy
Slozzzy 26 أيام قبل
true, now they do whatever they want
archi cheung
archi cheung أشهر قبل
Totally agreed and I hope ARface can reconsider the change.
Blu Waves
Blu Waves 2 أشهر قبل
Removing the “dislike” button just benefits clickbait videos.
Karat Juice Podcast
Karat Juice Podcast أشهر قبل
@Blue Waves interesting take... never thought of it that way
coolcat6778
coolcat6778 أشهر قبل
and that equals more ad revenue to youtube.
Kobe Westbrook
Kobe Westbrook أشهر قبل
@Phantom_Wolf And I completely disagree with you
Lily Bean
Lily Bean أشهر قبل
And sleepy Joe…
Polar Flow
Polar Flow أشهر قبل
Absolutely
Eucri Diaz
Eucri Diaz أشهر قبل
First time watching a video of this channel and you explained everything so well! I agree with everything you said
Zulu Shaka
Zulu Shaka أشهر قبل
Totally agree with you... keep up the great content! love your channel
galaxytrio
galaxytrio أشهر قبل
Good content, Marcus. Based on that info you provide, Google should simply bring back the 5-star rating system. That would provide more information without the concern about facilitating negative pile-ons on videos.
riley corrin
riley corrin أشهر قبل
I’m so thankful that you made this video 💕
Kombi Life
Kombi Life 2 أشهر قبل
Removing the dislike button will waste millions of hours of humanity's collective time. I say, thumbs down on this one ARface
Mr. Moon
Mr. Moon أشهر قبل
Maybe that's the point?
Leander Grobler
Leander Grobler أشهر قبل
"You see, this why we need to remove the thumbs down button next" - ARface
Jason Marcus
Jason Marcus أشهر قبل
@Rich Africa yeah.. no, in the end I will most certainly spend less time out of frustration.
Vasil Dilov
Vasil Dilov 2 أشهر قبل
You said it, millions of hours... of people watching ads generating money to these greedies while they are wandering around looking for the right video. It is just plain sad, even pathetic.
Shadow Ninja
Shadow Ninja 2 أشهر قبل
This is exactly what I worry about. I'm probably going to waste my employer dozens of hours now when searching for solutions on ARface, since I can't use the downvotes to determine if a video is worth watching or not.
Y. J.
Y. J. 2 أيام قبل
Something I want to say is that if someone can't handle the opinions of others, then they shouldn't have a channel. So they aren't exposed to 'hatred'.
PrincePalmTTV
PrincePalmTTV 2 أيام قبل
having the dislike button viable to us all can determined what's a scam when it comes to helping a certain thing.
Aryan Karcii
Aryan Karcii أشهر قبل
Idk if ARface knows this but lot of us use YT for educational purposes. As someone learning technical things, this is a nightmare. This is gonna make scamming and click-baiting so much bigger.
Szymon Dudziński
Szymon Dudziński أشهر قبل
I love how you don't just complain, but give ways to fix the problem.
Aurelija Skubutytė
Aurelija Skubutytė 2 أشهر قبل
Imagine if Amazon removed the customer star rating just to protect the "mental health" of the sellers.
Eddie Blair: Documenting the Dark Side of Reality
Eddie Blair: Documenting the Dark Side of Reality أشهر قبل
@Valentin Ehh. Ive had a good experience with it. Just about everything I purchase is from brands that I recognize so quality isn't an issue. If another service can get consistently have my orders arrive on my doorstep within 48 hours then I will consider switching.
Valentin
Valentin أشهر قبل
@Abdiqani Nur Idk imo amazon feels like a more scuffed version of aliexpress. The site works horrible + the layout is shit. Funny enough most of the items listed are worse quality then aliexpress (if u search for the same prices). It's honestly laughable
Sohaib H
Sohaib H أشهر قبل
The reason why people are shopping on Amazon because of the reviews without it Amazon is dead
Edward Branscomb
Edward Branscomb أشهر قبل
Future update: You get two options like or love
Darth Dystopian
Darth Dystopian 2 أشهر قبل
THIS
[xzođıʌ]
[xzođıʌ] أشهر قبل
Well, this is honestly the sort of world we have come to live in "artists" only want to see positive feedback on twitter, anybody who's not satisfied and voices an honest critique gets blocked.
Luke Farrugia
Luke Farrugia أشهر قبل
I've often thought they need two rating systems. Quality of video / agree/disagree with content. Im often conflicted with appreciating the video and thought/effort/reasoning of it but disliking the point of view. Definitely agree with removing the removing being a bad thing and all about trying coddle content and protect content users and inso, their ad revenue. More content = more money right? It's essentially censoring the 'views' of people.
SmellyDot123
SmellyDot123 29 أيام قبل
"And ARface is one of the only platforms that actually does that, that listens to their creators and actually does things about it" HUHHHHHHH They do the exact opposite. There've been countless different scenarios where the only way to actually reach ARface was a make noise on Twitter, and thats only if you have some type of following
Jacob Glik
Jacob Glik 2 أيام قبل
Seeing as this video has zero dislikes, there's clearly no opinion contradicting this one. Thanks youtube
Ernests Kečko
Ernests Kečko أشهر قبل
Kudos for your insight and clear opinion statement! Completely agree! I see it as a cheap solution on ARface's part.
Alex Salvatore
Alex Salvatore أشهر قبل
100% this hurts my ARface experience. I look more and more forward to a respectable alternative every day.
Baleegh Al-baitar
Baleegh Al-baitar أشهر قبل
Love you man. You just explain soooo easily
Malik J
Malik J 23 أيام قبل
What an amazing articulation of this topic! You've earned a subscription because you're too dope to have your name mispronounced
@Vijayz_
@Vijayz_ 2 أشهر قبل
This is worst update from youtube. Likes and dislike ratio helps me to figure out if a video is fake or not.
RabuHina
RabuHina 2 أيام قبل
@Master YodaAgreed. When I was new to digital drawing, I watched lots of videos on the subject matter to be sure I knew what was what and if the video was giving proper information. Same for watching videos on how play a piano (keyboard in my case) and how to play songs etc
Paweł Gołębiowski
Paweł Gołębiowski أشهر قبل
yes only chose like/dislike because it was there. now you gonna chose view/like or make some other ratio of your own and deal with it as nothing happened in no time people adapt, they only cry when change is actually happenning you wont be crying about it in 12 months so may as well stop now
Plain Truths
Plain Truths 2 أشهر قبل
Especially since uploaders can delete comments so no one can even comment to warn other users.
Ko An
Ko An 2 أشهر قبل
The censorship campaign continues
TN Zeno
TN Zeno 2 أشهر قبل
So now we’ll click on more videos we don’t want to watch.. then click on more because of that… and now they put app downloads on our screen.. wtf is this
Christophe Beckers
Christophe Beckers أشهر قبل
You're right having only the ability to dislike a video after watching for a certain amount of time is actualy a good way to slow down or minimmize those attacks. Or youtube could implement an " i'm not a robot " test each time you want to dislike a video.
DigThat32
DigThat32 أشهر قبل
100% agree w/this. It's useful info & the removal of it has made me spend less time watching videos.
F Sh989
F Sh989 أشهر قبل
finally ! someone has courage to say something to youtube !
Angelo vS
Angelo vS 4 أيام قبل
So true Marques. The dislikes of videos gave me a true reflection of the video. I cannot help but feel as though it’s a political move to remove the dislike counter.
carykh
carykh 2 أشهر قبل
Agree 100%. Also, if ARface's goal is to improve creator's mental health, I don't think removing dislikes even helps. It just means that instead of getting bombed with 6,000 dislikes, you'll get bombed with 6,000 comments saying "you suck" "ratio" "L" "use me as a dislike button". That's worse because each sign of disapproval will be unique in its approach, and harder to ignore.
K Gratia
K Gratia أشهر قبل
nice to see you here mr cary
willard sandy
willard sandy أشهر قبل
@StingrayC267 I typically don't watch videos that have comments disabled . I don't want to reward any content creator who isn't open to criticism with my time .
RoweHowe
RoweHowe أشهر قبل
Funny your comment is buried so far down, but you have the 2nd most likes. Wonder if its what you said?
Austin D
Austin D أشهر قبل
Ikr ARface needs to put back the dislike button before it becomes utter chaos
Wrestling With Finance
Wrestling With Finance أشهر قبل
I think the main point is about disincentivizing dislike bombers because they won't be able to see the effect of their campaign. They already disable dislikes on comments that you can't see the count. Basically, it's an anti-troll measure. It's way harder to come up with 6,000 genuine dislike comments than 6,000 dislike votes, and if someone's spamming a video with 6,000 negative comments that say the same thing from account "Johnny323490230" and its variations, that's way easier to eliminate.
Utku Demir
Utku Demir أشهر قبل
Quality of the time which I'm spending on ARface is dramatically decreased since the dislike counts were hidden. I feel like I'm forced to watch crappy videos by ARface. This is the worst change since the beginning. I hope they'll give up on this mistake.
OB
OB أشهر قبل
I watch a lot of educational videos on youtube and I even pay for the premium. Now I have no idea if I'm getting shit information on my educational videos or not. It's a quality of content indicator that is completely removed now. This also makes an amazing platform for misinformation now.
Rock Feed
Rock Feed أشهر قبل
Very well said. Much respect.
🇬🇧 LightenStar #She-Ra
🇬🇧 LightenStar #She-Ra 19 أيام قبل
I agree with you! I really hope youtube listens to your feedback
Aci
Aci أشهر قبل
I definitley agree, dislikes are an important part of the platform, much more for the general user than for creators.
Top 10
Top 10 أشهر قبل
@Orror SANESS can u send the link ?
Orror SANESS
Orror SANESS أشهر قبل
@Top 10 Specifically, my first “Isshiki” video.
Top 10
Top 10 أشهر قبل
@Orror SANESS On which video do you Want to know the dislikes ??
Orror SANESS
Orror SANESS أشهر قبل
Bring back dislikes on ARface videos and ARface comments!
Top 10
Top 10 أشهر قبل
I can still see the dislikes 😂 can't tell the trick.
Johan Mat
Johan Mat أشهر قبل
The video is so well done, there’s no dislike on this one.
Andrew Einhorn
Andrew Einhorn أشهر قبل
I love how measured Marques is. I'm basically filled with fury from this change. But my vitriolic venting will never make its way through to ARface decision-makers. I think this kind of discourse is more likely to do the trick. Here's hoping ...
NextYato
NextYato 22 أيام قبل
This definitely protects the scammers though. So good on ARface for showing their true colors.
Rahul Kapoor
Rahul Kapoor 13 أيام قبل
A good content creator like Marques will be severely impacted now. Viewers will put his content next to any other crap content and find no difference before deciding what to watch! People won't be able to easily find new good creators because there is no readily available metric anymore. Fuck ARface.
Stuff Made Here
Stuff Made Here 2 أشهر قبل
Completely agree that vote ratio is very useful as a viewer to make decisions on what is worth my time. It’s also useful as a creator to incentivize making better videos. Brigading is a real problem, but as a computer scientist & engineer it’s surprising to me that there isn’t a better solution than “burn it all down.”
Juice Addiction
Juice Addiction أشهر قبل
True I mean creators already had the option to hide the like dislike ratios
Peace Master
Peace Master 2 أشهر قبل
"Brigading is a real problem" Is it? I've literally never seen it, and I can't imagine how it'd be a problem worthy of such an extreme response.
V P
V P 2 أشهر قبل
AND where are the solutions to gender- and race- based harassment? This isn’t even a fig leaf on these serious problems.
Antonio K
Antonio K 2 أشهر قبل
@Lloyd Jones No google is not interested at that because you can still see if a video is worth watching they want to take that dessicion away from people.
Antonio K
Antonio K 2 أشهر قبل
@edisniuno Totally agree with you. Its all about this covid propaganda that is not working and now they need to limit free expression and speach on the biggest social platform. Its all about control of people nothing else.
truocolo
truocolo أشهر قبل
thank you for having expressed the ideas of many of us
AMiNsTaR
AMiNsTaR 3 أيام قبل
it's just sad how critic is viewed as something bad, instead of something good you can learn from.
ESHAN JUST SING
ESHAN JUST SING أشهر قبل
That update is on creator demand I guess... Specially those getting intended and targeted hate on some basis. And the creators or their puppeteers that are behind this... I believe happens to have lot of brass in their pockets.
SamSistema
SamSistema أشهر قبل
I agree 10000% this is like removing the freedom of speach... in the internet!
YaadManGaming
YaadManGaming 2 أشهر قبل
I agree with you. I think it’s fine the way it has been. Now we can’t really tell click bait videos by just the like ratio.
Nik S
Nik S 2 أشهر قبل
@Bhavya Jain Let’s not intellectualise this whole issue. That’s the reason I have started to like Unbox Therapy these days. No lecturing goes on there, pure tech reviews.
Nik S
Nik S 2 أشهر قبل
@chris musso That’s why I have started liking Unbox Therapy more these days. Only tech reviews, no lecturing
chris musso
chris musso 2 أشهر قبل
@how dare u yup fjb
how dare u
how dare u 2 أشهر قبل
hiding the 10-1 dislike to like ratio on every White House channel video from mr 81 million votes aka mr most popular president. gotta keep selling the fraud wasn’t a fraud. welcome to communism
chris musso
chris musso 2 أشهر قبل
All of your arguements wont help this absurd change by ARface because saying that the problem will be worse in the comments will just provoke them to completely remove comments entirely which im sure is their end goal, its purely about censorship and promoting a political agenda of the elites. Stay frosty folks, dont let the man pull the wool over your eyes!
BlackOps
BlackOps أشهر قبل
Thank you Marques, hopefully ARface listens this time as well
The Nakid Gardeners
The Nakid Gardeners 22 أيام قبل
I totally agree. Removing the count just to help a content creators mentality is just babying content creators. It's doing more harm than good.
Nikita Evdokimov
Nikita Evdokimov أشهر قبل
For now, for the PC version of ARface, I'm using some browser extentions which show the dislike count and even the ratio in percentage (I specifically use VidiQ) But for mobile app there is no solution This just kills the people's opinion, really And all we can so is to deal with it because ARface is such a huge monopoly that there is no competition, so they can still do this
chris amor
chris amor أشهر قبل
Ultimately this just hurts ARface. I like and use the platform significantly less since this move.
444Lukas444
444Lukas444 2 أشهر قبل
Next thing: IMDb is removing rating system because it hurts movie studios.
Dmitry Zakharov
Dmitry Zakharov أشهر قبل
...and because "other platforms also dont have a dislike button"
Shiv aditya Singh Machhan
Shiv aditya Singh Machhan أشهر قبل
they do something similar though XD
👺samurai boi
👺samurai boi 2 أشهر قبل
@Mike Kane also movie studios:What was that.
👺samurai boi
👺samurai boi 2 أشهر قبل
Lets remove rating system guys
G B
G B 2 أشهر قبل
No they'll only remove it for the public, actual film critics can still rate it lmao.
Thegooob95
Thegooob95 أشهر قبل
Ok, they can impact creator well-being. So can reviews. All businesses of credit have reviews. Taking dislikes away sucks
Tiaan Kruger
Tiaan Kruger أيام قبل
I totally agree with this. Honestly, at the very least the dislike counter should be showable if the creator wants to. both as channel and per video. But definitely lost some information as to the quality of the video with the loss of the dislike count
YTeslaEV
YTeslaEV أشهر قبل
I couldn't agree with you more. I am really struggling without the dislikes to find useful informational and user guide videos.
EndlessMike
EndlessMike أشهر قبل
The dislike button is extremely important when looking at reviews of products and other services or just being careful if a video has misinformation
Scott Lowe
Scott Lowe 2 أشهر قبل
This does a huge disservice to audiences like mine who use ARface as a study tool. Learning English as a second language is hard-there are a ton of great resources for students on this platform, but there is also plenty of content that is misleading, outdated, lazy, or just plain wrong. Why make it even harder for users to know what information to trust (or at least spend their time on) when you could just... i don't know... not?
Md Zubair
Md Zubair 2 أشهر قبل
Absolutely right 😊
A S
A S 2 أشهر قبل
if i go on youtube for a class, that means the instructor doesnt teach good. i dont wanna waste even more time on bad instructors on youtube, id be drained
Tru Zero
Tru Zero 2 أشهر قبل
I think that the middle solution will be by setting the feature of showing and hiding dislikes for the video to the youtube creators itself, becouse in this way the the youtube creators will control the appearance or concealment of dislikes for all his videos , and thus we will avoid the problem of the attack by some people on the videos and pressing the dislike button just for fun Because it will make the content makers the decision to hide the dislike button if he feels that one of his videos is under a dislike attack, and the rest of the videos will remain as they are So He will hide the dislike button for that video only and let other videos as the are and will make the attack fail
dorkle
dorkle 2 أشهر قبل
@TeckFire Excellent speech man, we gotta take em with a little extra grain of salt now.
TeckFire
TeckFire 2 أشهر قبل
Honestly, and I may be in the minority here, but I’m probably going to spend a lot less time on ARface tutorials now to avoid the plethora of bad ones out there now that I have no real way of knowing if it actually works or not. It sucks, but I guess forums and places similar like Reddit are the way to go instead now. Who knows? Maybe some brave soul will start cataloguing the good ones to recommend on other sites. Super sucks for small creators now, too, because I’m less likely to click on a video with less likes now.
Baiter
Baiter 20 أيام قبل
I like how almost all creators agree that this is a bad idea
Trenbologna Sandwich
Trenbologna Sandwich 27 أيام قبل
This is gonna blow up in big techs face soon. The silent majority is fighting back. Great video!
Nikos Stoidis
Nikos Stoidis أشهر قبل
You are absolutely right! Hiding it has much more disadvantages
NerdOracle
NerdOracle أشهر قبل
and now i'll never know how many people disagreed with him
Omati
Omati 2 أشهر قبل
ARface NEEDS a competitor. They can literally do what they want and we have no alternatives.
Paweł Gołębiowski
Paweł Gołębiowski أشهر قبل
@Rio Cheng don't you forget that we actually gave em all that wealth, and we also have the power to take it back. Starts from the little men like you and me, ends at the very top.
Rio Cheng
Rio Cheng أشهر قبل
This is definitely true but sadly almost impossible to happen, I think ARface would be everlasting, or you may say until the end of the world because they are simply too powerful in terms of wealth and resources.
Paweł Gołębiowski
Paweł Gołębiowski أشهر قبل
thats their web they have been spanning for people for years now it cost em billions you think they don't want a return on such an investment ? harvest season is coming.
Jonathan Smith
Jonathan Smith أشهر قبل
@J C Yeah no. I want free speech on my platform.
Mack JSM
Mack JSM أشهر قبل
RUMBLE
Fizzy Motors
Fizzy Motors 29 أيام قبل
The all important question is, How removing the dislike information to the public will help ARface make more money? ie, more views overall, more content being posted, and more ads
アノマリー
アノマリー أشهر قبل
“Honestly, you’re all gonna get used to it pretty quickly.” I can’t- 💀
Jade Lyel
Jade Lyel 25 أيام قبل
At the very least they should make it where when you upload a video you have the option of making your dislikes public the same way you can set the video to private or public.
Todoroki 01
Todoroki 01 أشهر قبل
Perfectly put. Completely agree. I’ve not spoken to or seen one creator that has liked or is for the removal of the dislike counter. Such a poor choice.
JellyScrub
JellyScrub 2 أشهر قبل
ARface: Dislikes hurt the creator's feelings Also ARface: Only the creator can see the number of dislikes
msftvsn
msftvsn أشهر قبل
@edisniuno bingo!
DM
DM أشهر قبل
You nailed it. They are so full of BS
Tony Magana
Tony Magana 2 أشهر قبل
@edisniuno I'm glad somebody sees it. Based!
Wanita06
Wanita06 2 أشهر قبل
Omg thats so stupid
Soumil
Soumil 2 أشهر قبل
@KingPa Aravindan IKR?! How could he make such a mistake?! disliked
Cormac Guerin
Cormac Guerin أشهر قبل
Love the way you articulated this !
Ntando Mbedu
Ntando Mbedu أشهر قبل
Removing the dislike has been kinda frustrating on me ngl. I've spent so much time watch videos that didn't help the slightest just cause I can't see how many other people disliked it...kinda makes it hard to decide on which video to watch and I can't watch all of them just to find the one I like
AmoRit Tv
AmoRit Tv أشهر قبل
To the person who is reading this, don't give up on your ARface channel. Keep going it's going to get better. Love 💞😘
Thomas Wells
Thomas Wells أشهر قبل
Tbh I use my like button only for videos that have information I'd like to come back to. But I do dislike videos that the algorithm was wrong on what I wanted to see. It's not a personal attack.
5MadMovieMakers
5MadMovieMakers أشهر قبل
ARface being a search engine is one of its most valuable qualities
FrostFireToons
FrostFireToons أشهر قبل
hey
Andrey Khvostenko
Andrey Khvostenko أشهر قبل
Yes! Dear ARface, please listen 🥺❤️
Skinnie
Skinnie أشهر قبل
0:31 LOL @ this youtube shill. ARface is notorious for not listening to their creators. Unsubbed to this garbage.
pyrobasplas
pyrobasplas أشهر قبل
The one and only reason why they did this, is because Joe Biden and Bill Gates their like dislike ratio was, well.... 95% down 5% up
JmKrokY
JmKrokY أشهر قبل
Cool
Joe Arthur
Joe Arthur أشهر قبل
I've never been in a ARface comment section argument until they removed the dislike button... Great points in this video
Arthur Miller
Arthur Miller أشهر قبل
I'm "old enough" to remember when everyone didn't get a participation trophy to protect their feelings from mental stress........ The fact that almost all social media sites have the equivalent of a "participation trophy", where the only option is to "like" their content, is part of a greater problem. It's created a society of people who can't deal with constructive feedback (mostly because they're never provided with any). They cannot engage in conversations that don't 1,000% agree with or praise their every thought. I'm not a ARface content creator. So I have no idea how visible ARface analytics are without "extra" effort. But if the more readily available indication (to the public and creators) of how well particular videos are received is only the "like" button, then it still only amounts to a participation trophy. ARface's argument is that the site was supposed "give everyone a voice". But by taking away the "dislike" button they're taking away the remaining public's ability to provide quantifiable public "voice" to the creators.
B N
B N أشهر قبل
I feel like I lost my freedom protest in this platform. The ARface community is the most sane community and they would only dislike thinks that are worst possible . I would eventually stop using youTube because of this...
Upstaged by a Dog
Upstaged by a Dog أشهر قبل
Before I even watch past the first minute of the video ... "ARface listens to their creators and does things about it". Please, seek out LGBT+ educators on ARface and ask how many times they have been demonetised, ignored and had videos shadow banned and deleted with no understanding or consistency. ARface seems to treat anything mentioning "gay" issues (etc) as pornographic.
Dawid Does Tech Stuff
Dawid Does Tech Stuff 2 أشهر قبل
I feel like a dislike is one of the least hurtful ways for a viewer to show the content is lacking. I would take a negative like to dislike ratio over a weirdly specific comment pointing out how my video sucks because the spacing between my eyes is weird, any day of the week.
Dragoonsoul7878
Dragoonsoul7878 أشهر قبل
@Luis Hansen Unfortunately most videos say "Like comment and subscribe!" which means the herd effects are actually for likes. This means for herd dislikes to even happen a video must do terrible. Yes, for herd dislikes to matter a video must do terrible thereby nullifying the vast majority of herd issues.
13Krentebol
13Krentebol 2 أشهر قبل
Lol, comments are you much beter then
Alex Gonzalez
Alex Gonzalez 2 أشهر قبل
Hear! Hear!
Lukyan
Lukyan 2 أشهر قبل
This
zebble ganubi
zebble ganubi 2 أشهر قبل
what i would much prefer instead of a dislike button would be an icon of a face where you could click on the different parts of it to let the youtuber know if they have any weird facial features. it would be so much easier than having to leave a comment
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